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10-21-2005, 10:49 AM
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Username: AikiWeb System
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Article: Uke is Never Wrong? by "The Grindstone"
Discuss the article, "Uke is Never Wrong?" by "The Grindstone" here.
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10-21-2005, 07:03 PM
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Username: Janet Rosen
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Re: Article: Uke is Never Wrong? by "The Grindstone"
Tarik, as a student who has been consciously working on her ukemi for years and years, and who still thinks it's pretty awful some days, what you've written really resonates for me. Many thanks.
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Janet Rosen
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"peace will enter when hate is gone"--percy mayfield
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10-26-2005, 09:59 PM
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Username: Bronson
Dojo: Seiwa Dojo and Southside Dojo
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Re: Article: Uke is Never Wrong? by "The Grindstone"
Bravo!!
You took the thoughts from my brain. Which I appreciate as I lack the ability to get them to my fingers 
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"A pacifist is not really a pacifist if he is unable to make a choice between violence and non-violence. A true pacifist is able to kill or maim in the blink of an eye, but at the moment of impending destruction of the enemy he chooses non-violence."
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11-08-2005, 03:47 AM
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Username: David Yap
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Re: Article: Uke is Never Wrong? by "The Grindstone"
IMO, "Uke is never wrong" simply means Nage should not blame the uke when his/her technique sucks. Nonetheless, a good article indeed.
David Y
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11-08-2005, 05:44 AM
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Username: Amir Krause
Dojo: Shirokan Dojo / Tel Aviv Israel
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Re: Article: Uke is Never Wrong? by "The Grindstone"
Being a good Uke is one of the hardest things in Aikido. Learning to be a good Uke teaches us a lot about intention on the one hand, and softness on the other.
Amir
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11-08-2005, 09:12 AM
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Username: Robert Rumpf
Dojo: Academy of Zen and the Ways
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Re: Article: Uke is Never Wrong? by "The Grindstone"
I think that where people get into confusion is that they confuse the idea of "Uke is never wrong" with the idea of "The enemy is never wrong." That is an important distinction. This article is a good reminder of why the first statement is incorrect, due to the conventions of training that guide the uke-nage relationship in order for learning to have a chance to occur.
Rob
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11-22-2005, 12:02 PM
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Username: tarik
Dojo: Iwae Dojo
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Re: Article: Uke is Never Wrong? by "The Grindstone"
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David Yap wrote:
IMO, "Uke is never wrong" simply means Nage should not blame the uke when his/her technique sucks. Nonetheless, a good article indeed.
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Certainly a nage/tori/shite should take responsibility for their technique, yet where does one draw the line in a 'cooperative' training environment?
Lots of room for misunderstanding there; without the dialog to explicate the training contract. |
Tarik Ghbeish
MASAKATSU AGATSU -- "The true victory of self-mastery."
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